[andreigheorghe]

> Without these numbers it's hard to support your premise.

His premise is that "anybody could learn coding if they tried", whereby "tried" I assumed applies to only the people who passed those two rounds of self-selection you describe.

[taneq]

That's kind of like saying "anyone can run a marathon" and then qualifying it to "if they enter an organized event and complete the appropriate training for it".

[yjhoney]

> That's kind of like saying "anyone can run a marathon" and then qualifying it to "if they enter an organized event and complete the appropriate training for it".

Yes. That was what I was trying to figure out is, if there was an organized event could anybody (who are motivated to complete the training) get a coding job?

I would like to think so, but I work with many people in the industry who will say, 'nah they need the brains for it'.

I try my best to motivate those who lose motivation but ultimately I don't have the bandwidth to inspire everyone who loses motivation.

[deadwanderer]

The idea OP is working to combat or disprove, though, is not that "People can succeed without effort". Rather, they are working to prove that software development is a skill which can be learned by most/all people, and not some highly intellectual undertaking out of reach to all but the most mentally elite.