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by PavlovsCat 2537 days ago
What journalists? Sources for this article are the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change and the Indian Institute of Tropical Meteorology.. a whole lot really, not one thing coming from a journalist.

> Last year, there were 484 official heat waves across India, up from 21 in 2010.

That's by definition of the the Indian government, not journalists that have never left their hotel.
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wrong_variable 2537 days ago
> Last year, there were 484 official heat waves across India, up from 21 in 2010.

Does it mean India is unlivable ? What if we changed the headline to USA being unlivable ? how often has CNN published USA being unlivable ?

CNN is responsible for climate change as much as any large oil company, they have always invited climate change denialist on their network.

There is also a undertone to 'India being unlivable' that rubs some people the wrong way. They said the same thing about Africa / India being unlivable for white colonist 300 years ago. So CNN should try to be neutral and informed in their writing - they could have said "North Indian cities like Delhi are becoming unlivable".

Putting all of India in one basket when India has extremely varied climate, make it seem they are much more uninformed.

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PavlovsCat 2537 days ago
> Does it mean India is unlivable ?

No, of course not. The headline isn't to give a yes or no answer, but to simply explore the question, list some things we know and some studies.

I guess as Indian you get to read a lot of patronizing shit on the web, and I totally respect your resentment, but this article was submitted by someone from MIT, it wasn't written by their staff.

> how often has CNN published USA being unlivable ?

Not unlivable, but literally searching for "cnn when will the us become unlivable" I found these for example:

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/11/23/health/climate-change-rep...

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/08/07/health/hothouse-earth-war...

> More than 200 countries pledged to take action on climate change under the Paris Accord struck in 2015. The agreement pushed signatories to work together to keep temperatures from rising more than 2°C above pre-industrial levels. However, there are no binding targets, and the US later pulled out, dealing a blow to global efforts to form a united front against climate change.

I have no love for the CNN either (mainly for their cheerleading for and getting fat off war, as I see it), but here I have to say, fair enough?

> There is also a undertone to 'India being unlivable' that rubs some people the wrong way.

As I said above, in general being pissed off by that is something I totally understand (not as in "I know what it's like", but you know what I mean I hope), but this is about the wet bulb temperature, so "literally unlivable", not colonialist attitudes.

> So CNN should try to be neutral and informed in their writing - they could have said "North Indian cities like Delhi are becoming unlivable".

I agree that most headlines suck (and that's not to excuse it), but just as I checked the article to quote the relevant bits (which are more nuanced than the headline was), I realized they changed it to "Are parts of India becoming too hot for humans?", which is at least something.

By the time this shit really hits the fan, however bad it gets, the people who caused the most harm will be dead and gone either way. Even you and me won't see the worst of this, this could get centuries deep, and industrialized civilization might as well get used up in war, leaving "us" (humanity) with fuck all.

FWIW, I think "the West" kinda owes a lot of reparations, to a lot of countries, I don't hold your anger against you at all. But we need to be sober and fierce more than anything, though not for us little people to bicker, and not to be bitter. I guess it's patronizing and easy to say for me, but I can't change where I was born. We just have to roll our sleeves up wherever we are, and then we'll still get enough people who will genuinely resist the inconveniences (or taxes) coming out of the woodworks. There'll be plenty of battles ahead, let's not have needless ones.

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