[antidesitter]

> "Free Market" is a terrible term, the freedom of the market needs to be defined.

Free market: A market that is free from government interference, prices rising and falling in accordance with supply and demand.

https://www.oxfordreference.com/view/10.1093/oi/authority.20...

> Does the market a business exists in give you the freedom to not be burgled?

Yes, it gives you that freedom.

> Does it give you the freedom to not have to pay for healthcare for your employees?

Yes, it gives you that freedom.

> Does it provide some level of free training to those employees?

Are horses brown? Depends on the horse. Does that mean “horse” is a “terrible term”? No.

> If you're a fisherman and there's another fisherman does the market ensure that other fisherman won't exhaust the ecosystem?

No, because the lack of property rights in that situation creates a tragedy of the commons.

[dredmorbius]

Setting a minimum baseline standard, such as mandated employment conditions, is not an interference with price mechanisms.

(Dismissing for now the qyuestion of what goods and services can be effectively delivered via markets, and in what circumstances.)

[antidesitter]

If such conditions change the price of labour, for example, they are by definition an interference with price mechanisms. The magnitude of the interference will depend on the magnitude of this change. For example, setting a price floor for labour at $0.03/hr will have a smaller effect than setting that price floor at $30/hr.

[dredmorbius]

A free market is one in which, once uniform or standard rules or requirements are established, price and quantity are determined by market mechanisms, rather than by some central planning mechanism.

Even within a so-called free market, numerous market failures may exist: externalities, imperfect or asymmetric information, monopoly/monopsony, coercion, power imbalances, fraud and misrepresentation, rent-seeking and rents, public goods, principle-agent problems, capital concentration, systemic risk, capture and corruption, Gresham's Law dynamics, unpriced ecological inputs, and numerous parties unable to participate in wholly market-based transactions, among them.

Establishing a minimum wage, or employer of last resort, addresses a well-known conflict in the tendencies of the prices of wages and rents -- see Smith and Ricardo.

What you're describing is neither free market nor even remotely viable.

[antidesitter]

> A free market is one in which, once uniform or standard rules or requirements are established

This is not correct. A free market is a market that is free from government interference. Such rules or requirements can constitute government interference. Ergo, they can fail to yield a free market.

To see the absurdity of the claim that "uniform or standard rules or requirements" always yield a free market, consider the "uniform rule" given by the price floor I described above.

> Even within a so-called free market, numerous market failures may exist

This is irrelevant to a discussion about whether the term "free market" is meaningful. It's moving the goalposts.

> coercion, fraud and misrepresentation, capital concentration, systemic risk, capture and corruption, numerous parties unable to participate in wholly market-based transactions (?)

These are not "market failures", and many of the failures you described are really the same (Gresham's Law and information asymmetry). That aside, one must take into account whether the alternatives are worse: in other words, government failure. For example, on your point about "rent-seeking and rents":

Alexander Hamilton of the World Bank Institute argued in 2013 that rent extraction positively correlates with government size even in stable democracies with high income, robust rule of law mechanisms, transparency, and media freedom. [1]

> What you're describing

What am I describing?

[1] Small Is Beautiful, at Least in High-Income Democracies: The Distribution of Policy-Making Responsibility, Electoral Accountability, and Incentives for Rent Extraction. Alexander Hamilton. http://documents.worldbank.org/curated/en/195551468332410332...