[lyxsus1]

> But... why?

idk exact reasoning, but it seems like they've decided to maximise design focus on primary user experience from device sacrificing almost nothing.

> Logitech managed to build a significantly more comfortable mouse

Can you please prove it by a link? I had to build a specific PC for a work-related project about a year ago, wasn't a pleasure.

> Aren't you really going out there on a severely stretched limb to defend this mouse design?

I honestly don't understand the popular kind of critics that Apple receives. Those details and choices are what hooked me into their products. When I see somebody complains about no CD-ROM in laptop or that mouse charging thing or that monitor stand, it feels more like trolling.

I mean really, more comfortable mouse? Which one is that?

[izacus]

Pretty much any mouse is more comfortable and ergonomic than the wrist pain inducing Magic Mouse.

But if you want more concrete models - Logitech's MX Master 2 is incredibly comfortable once you put your hand on it and it's significantly better than anything Apple ever did in mouse area. I can't understate how good it felt to switch away from the Apple's mouse to the Master. And it can even charge while in use and remain connected via both USB receiver and Bluetooth to three devices (which is very useful because you can just leave the USB receiver in the monitor hub and avoid the BT pairing process everytime someone else sits down on a workplace).

If you want a smaller, laptop portable, alternative, MX Anywhere 2 is again a rather comfortable mouse (although nowhere near the Master due to its smaller size) and can still charge while being used.

> I honestly don't understand the popular kind of critics that Apple receives. Those details and choices are what hooked me into their products. When I see somebody complains about no CD-ROM in laptop or that mouse charging thing or that monitor stand, it feels more like trolling.

I don't understand what kind of details are there in the Magic Mouse? It's not comfortable, it doesn't give very clear click feedback, the gestures are finnicky even on macOS... Which mouse are you comparing it to?

[lyxsus1]

I don't think I'll convince you to try the latest MM, so I've ordered the one you've mentioned (Logitech's MX Master 2). It should be delivered to me tomorrow. I'll be using it for at least 1-2 weeks just for the sake of this argument.

After that I'll contact you in this thread and share the results if you're interested. I don't expect your or mine opinion changed, but I guess it'll be stupid not to test.