[lm28469]

On the other hand there are many nice places around the valley. I think that's the only thing I miss from the valley, drive 40 min in any direction and you're either in a forest, a desert, on top of a mountain or at a sea side. I live in berlin now and it's quite the opposite, the city if full of life but the nature sucks for a good 200km radius.

Mountain roads with nice view on top:

https://www.google.com/maps/dir/37.5880399,-121.8692997/37.4...

Nice road in the woods:

https://www.google.com/maps/dir/37.5880399,-121.8692997/37.4...

Small twisty road to santa cruz:

https://www.google.com/maps/dir/37.5880399,-121.8692997/37.4...

I also remember remote hiking trails going up the hills south of mountain view but I can't place them on the map. They were always empty, best place to chill and get out of the stressful environment.

[xaedes]

To be fair, 200km - which is quite a distance for a small country like Germany - around Berlin includes a LOT of nice nature areas, e.g.: Baltic Sea, Mecklenburg Lake Plateau, Saxon Switzerland, Harz, and many more.

[lm28469]

Mecklenburg Lake Plateau is the only one under 200km though, anyway, it take some preparation to do that kind of trip.

Baltic Sea = 200km to the first coast

Saxon Switzerland = 250km

Harz = 275km

[xaedes]

I measure geographical distance using google maps starting from Berlin (52.515277, 13.405301):

The german part of Saxon Switzerland is at most 200km. Distance through Dresden up to German-Czech border is 200km.

German coast of Baltic Sea is 200km, yes.

Brocken, highest "mountain" in Harz, and more or less its center, is 206km away.

Another nice area for canoeing or hiking is Jena/Naumburg(Saale) 200km south-west-ish.

Your distances are probably more useful though, when you want to get there, as I suspect them to be travel distances.

[lm28469]

Ah yes indeed, I'm talking about traveling distance, I'd love to be able to fly there in a personal helicopter though.