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> APL perhaps goes a little far

When I learned APL long ago in a languages course, it was on a dedicated APL setup with an APL keyboard.

In that context, it was a "how SHOULD things be" sort of design decision. I know I started off quickly thinking in terms of math and the language, not composing symbols.

Of course, APL keyboards have gone the way of the dodo and so the language has a higher barrier to entry.