[mevile]

I'm ready for a post-Apple world. Fine attention to detail in the user experience of their products, but at the expense of a pernicious ecosystem that traps you in and works with nothing else. It feels weird to say it, but I much more prefer Microsoft and their recent culture change. They're putting xbox gamepass on non-Microsoft devices, their own PC games on Steam, open sourcing their software, building world class android apps. I don't care how many Jony Ive's you've got, it's the openness and willingness to work with others that I want.

[snazz]

Apple has their own walled garden ecosystem because they can afford to. It really isn't much different from Microsoft in the 90s and early 00s, when they were at the peak of their market lock-in with Windows. Then the rest of the world changed, and it took them a really long time to adapt. Since they've been forced to open up their software and their ecosystem, the consumer has benefited immensely. Had everyone still been working on Microsoft Office on Microsoft Windows with generic PC hardware and the mobile revolution had not occurred, Microsoft would have never left their old ways because they didn't need to.

Whether the same thing will at some point happen to Apple we do not know (although I'll wager we're nearing Apple's peak), but it will likely take a monumental change in the way that the technology world works for such a transformation to happen.

[wbl]

Microsoft always wanted 3rd party apps on windows and never really tried to monopolize distribution or creation. They wanted the platform to be valuable to customers.

[mav3rick]

You always compromise on quality when you go for cross compat. Either the quality in hardware suffers or the quality in software suffers or both. And this is someone who never uses Apple. But I acknowledge why they do what they do.

[izacus]

Even Apple is capable of using standards when they want to - all the way from Samba, USB-C, Bluetooth, CalDAV/CardDAV, and more on every level.

They just tend to choose not to these days to make our user experience slightly worse and extract more money for dongles or force us to buy more of their special hardware.