[dmos62]

> environment we need to push for no driving

Agreed, but politically it's near impossible at this point. One person expressed the effort required to change how we interact with the environment quite well: on the country-level, it's like the US mobilization for WW2. After decades of government intervention being framed as diabolic, and the issue of environment being turned into a partisan issue, I don't see any way this can happen in US at this time.

[WorldMaker]

Moon shot. Arguably the right mix of political PR (charismatic leadership, cohesive message) and some sense of large enough external threat. Climate change is already right there as not just a huge external threat, but an existential threat. Politicians have just yet to mobilize the American political machinery necessary to properly react to it. A few good speeches from the right leader could do magic, at least so history tells us.

(It may not be possible in the age of Fox News to rally enough people to the smart causes. But the treasons of that Australian institution against the World are still left to be prosecuted.)