[southern_cross]

Check my comment history from another thread a little while back to see details about problems I've found with Berkeley Earth. But the short version is that the charts and graphics provided by those folks for my local area, and created by others using their data, seem to bear little resemblance to the reality of the situation. Feel free to follow up on the links provided there to see what you can see about your own local area.

[woodandsteel]

It's interesting reading the views of those who disagree with the mainstream position. What is interesting is how many different positions they have

Some claim the world is not getting warmer.

Some agree it might be but we don't know for sure.

Some agree it is getting warmer, and say it might be due to human activity, but we don't know for sure.

Some agree it is getting warmer, but claim it is due to some other cause than human activity.

Some claim it is getting warmer, but increased co2 will bring huge benefits.

Some agree it is getting warmer and agree that increased co2 brings harm, but that efforts to reduce emissions would bring great economic harm.

Plus probably several other positions I have not mentions. Also, some people try to combine several positions.

You know, you all would be more persuasive if you could first reach agreement among yourselves. Or at least if the advocates of each position would be as critical of the other positions as they are of the mainstream position.