[karthikb]

> The 4Runner has barely changed in 10 years.

Which makes a lot of sense when you consider how and where it's used. It's easier to have service and repair infrastructure for one car with identical mechanicals over a decade than 3 or 4.

[wyclif]

Honda makes cars. Toyota makes appliances for people who hate driving.

[Arbalest]

With a couple of exceptions in the enthusiast sector, where they are well regarded. Or at least they did at one point. I am of course thinking of the cars with the 1JZ and 2JZ engines. I have an inkling that my heuristic might also correlate with Yamaha input, but on that I'm not certain (not knowing the whole engine lineup)

[wyclif]

This is also why the Toyota Hilux is the vehicle of choice for ISIS: https://www.businessinsider.com/why-isis-uses-toyota-trucks-...

[sitkack]

It would be the vehicle of choice for any army with a comptroller.

[bigiain]

And Tesla make huge smartphones with seats and wheels.

[kazinator]

Nope; both are like that now. They used to make fun cars for people who love driving. Honda held out some five to ten years longer than Toyota, that's all.

[wyclif]

I'm curious why you say that. Seems to me that the two companies are still quite different in that regard culturally.

[shostack]

The Supra would like to disagree with you.

[wyclif]

Actually, I agree with you. The Supra seems to be an exception to the rule with regard to Toyota culture. It's fascinating and I'd like to test drive one.