| Rather than switch to a meta-conversation about "memes", could you address the more concrete questions I asked earlier? That is, I wanted to know if you think that "white supremacy and "supporting white supremacy" were meaningful terms at all. Before doing that, I'll note that you were the first to use the term 'society' in this thread. My previous statements were along the lines of 'support for open white supremacy'. I think "society" is a distraction because there's always the "not all" objection - not all white people in Virgiania in 1850s were in favor of slavery, even though it was a slave society. So when I mean "society", I mean "the main cultural views as reinforced by the government and others with political, economic, and physical power". Going back to my earlier questions, which I'll augment: 1) can the 1970s South Africa be described as a white supremacist society? I think it can. For obvious reasons. 2) can the 1850s US be described as a white supremacist society? I think it can, for obvious reasons. 3) can the 1950s US be described as a white supremacist society? I think it can. Jim Crow laws. Sundowner towns, Redlining, Mississippi Burning. 4) can the current US be described as a white supremacist society? I have come to the conclusion that viewing the dominate power structures in the US as being strongly influenced by white supremacy is a valid, though incomplete one. If you reject that 'white-supremacist society' is a useful term, then perhaps you shouldn't have introduced it? |