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by henrikschroder 2556 days ago
At the time of the GDPRpocalypse last year, there were a lot of discussions here, and a lot of FUD being slung around about how if your US website wasn't 100% GDPR-compliant you'd be handcuffed if you set foot in an EU airport bla bla bla, or that minor infractions would incur the maximum penalty of millions of euro, bankrupting your awesome adtech startup bla bla bla. Most of it was fueled by the clash between US and EU jurisprudence, the legal systems are actually pretty different.

Some of us argued that no, this is not the apocalypse, the law says that fines will be proportionate, and the various national agencies will work with you to ensure you are compliant. And unless you willfully do the kind of shady shit the law is meant to protect against, you're fine.

Seems we were right. This list looks pretty sane to me, with one exception.

250k€ for using the microphones of all users of an app to spy and determine if they were in a pub that showed football matches without a license. Fuck yeah.

400k€ for a hospital that had effectively unrestricted access to all patient files for all staff. Yes. What would the HIPAA-equivalent fine be?

1400€ for a police officer abusing systems doing lookups for personal gain. Yes.

170k€ for a school district allowing public access to personal data of all minor-aged students. Yes, yes, yes.

The one exception is the fine on Google in France. This is purely a political bullshit game over control and loss of control.

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> Seems we were right.

Arguably, and so far.

There are sites that just block requests from the EU, there's a difficult-to-measure chilling effect on small businesses, and just because nobody's been hanged over it in year one doesn't mean it won't be abused, oppressive, or have other negative unintended consequences in the future.

> There are sites that just block requests from the EU, there's a difficult-to-measure chilling effect on small businesses

food safety regulations have a chilling effect on businesses that would try and sell arsenic-laced food.

dumping poisonous byproducts of a manufacturing process in a river will also net you a stomping by the society, another instance of a chilling effect of regulations.

i'm happy with these chilling effects, they relieve me of the need for constant vigilance. they enable our society to function. we do not need to fear for our mental of physical health and (private) lives all the time, we can focus on higher-order things instead.

I feel differently about it, but I think that's totally fair. Just pointing out that it's not quite the case that opponents' predictions turned out to be wrong.

Some did, at least for the first year. But some haven't.

> There are sites that just block requests from the EU

The only sites that I've seen with this are local US news sites that don't even have to follow GDPR.

Could you elaborate on why you think they do not have to follow GDPR? Do you think they can continue to track all their visitors as before, including the odd EU citizen?