[binarymax]

I'd be curious to know if Apple collects telemetry on touchbar usage. I don't use it. At all. I have it frozen to only show the equivalent physical keys that used to be there (esc and the fn keys). Does anyone use the touchbar effectively and like it? What are the chances of Apple ditching it on some models?

[mleo]

I used to be the same. After 6 months of use and getting use to not accidentally hitting the touch bar I changed it back to the dynamic setting. That said, I still don't use it except for volume, which was part of the standard set of keys.

[jasonrhaas]

I'm in the same boat. I have it frozen to use as regular keys. So basically I have the same functionality as a regular keyboard, with the caveat that sometimes the keys don't work, and there is no haptic feedback.

[argd678]

I do the same thing and would also really love to know who thinks it’s in any way good.

I hit it all the time by accident and suddenly in the middle of typing iTunes pops up, or an IntelleJ config window, vi sort of works but amazingly the escape touch key isn’t always sensitive enough and I have to double tap it.

[lelf]

> really love to know who thinks it’s in any way good.

I think it’s good. Install BetterTouchTool (or analog) and the touchbar becomes infinitely-customisable multi-touch fn-keys row. The only missing thing is any tactile feedback (although BetterTouchTool can “simulate” it using touchpad’s linear motor).

[epaga]

I used to feel the same until I discovered BetterTouchTool which lets you completely customize it yourself, contextualized by app.

This made me actually really like it.

But the vanilla Touch Bar? Totally agree it’s pretty near useless or worse.

[mistersquid]

I use the Touch Bar for volume control, brightness control, to select screen when VNCing to remote machine.

FN key reveals Function keys for me.