[dmarlow]

"good engineers simply want nothing to do with the Microsoft ecosystem"

Seriously? I guess the whole swath of .NET developers aren't good engineers...

[whycombagator]

I thought it was universal knowledge that everyone involved/working with the Microsoft ecosystem was automatically a bad engineer?

Short list of awful engineers:

Jon Skeet, Marc Gravell, Darin Dimitrov, Gordon Linoff, Hans Passant, Schabse Laks, Nick Craver, Jared Par, Eric Lippert, Anders Hejlsberg, etc.

Good engineers also actively avoid using Stack Overflow - as it's based on Microsoft tech and good engineers want nothing to do with Microsoft.

[jetti]

Not to mention all those devs who are putting a ton of effort into the .NET Core runtime and optimizations. They are just truly awful devs

[fj39dkf]

Yes, seriously.

[dmarlow]

Care to elaborate? You already throw around blanket statements, it's not enough to just say "yes". What's your rationale?

[GenericsMotors]

He has no rationale. Doubt he even knows the scale at which MS' tech stack is used, especially outside of the USA's hipster bubbles.

[fj39dkf]

Those "hipster bubbles" are the areas where most tech innovation is happening. Nobody is saying that insurance companies aren't using .NET.

[GenericsMotors]

Churning out Javascript/webshit frameworks every month, and running on fumes and the good graces of VCs isn't innovation.

"Boring" industries like insurance might not seem innovative on the outside because their members aren't blogging and twattering about it constantly. One of my clients does catastrophe modeling, and uses both Python and .NET (F#)...but it's probably not going to be something on your radar. But guess what, they're raking in the dough while actually being innovative, yet you're here on HN claiming they're not proper engineers.

Best of luck to you.