[lasdfas]

It took me a while to realize this. It wasn't until there was a post about something I was an expert on. I finally realized people respond here often with little knowledge or even no knowledge at all. It made me question everything I read before on this site.

[dheera]

It's also generally a problem especially of the entrepreneurial world. In the academic world, some of the most knowledgeable people get listened to, even if all they do is quietly churn out results and publish them. In the entrepreneurial world, it's often the people who speak loudly, confidently, and able to answer questions before you've even finished your question who get funded, even if they don't know what they're talking about.

Theranos and its ilk were all no surprise to me. The entire venture ecosystem is perfectly designed to catch charlatans, not experts.

[spacemanmatt]

Having marketed analytical products to VC audiences twice, I'm just not convinced that the VC ecosystem is even designed. They seem to prefer status quo (high risk) over data-informed decisions.

[nathancahill]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gell-Mann_amnesia_effect

[edoceo]

It's not just commenters on this site; planet wide problem.

[lasdfas]

Definitely, I was just very naive to think somehow this platform was immune from general human behavior

[mordechai9000]

I think there are a lot of comments that are just unfounded amateur speculation presented as fact, especially for topics outside IT/CS.

On the other hand, I think it's common to see threads that have a high ratio of signal to noise. Like a link to a scientific paper will have one of the authors of the paper in the comments section answering questions.

[krapp]

This site (or at least the community around it) does claim a degree of highbrow intellectual merit and deep technical expertise that places it in a self-determined echelon above the rest of the web, which one can readily see in the disdain that commenters here have for Reddit, other social media sites, most non-technical fields and people in general.

So it is ironic and kind of funny when you realize that, apart from a few outliers, Hacker News is just as infested with trolls, fools, posers and Dunning-Krueger as the rest of the web.

It is just a more polite /g/ without the pictures and memes. That's not an insult, just an observation of how deeply the sets of users here, there, on Reddit and elsewhere overlap.

[LMYahooTFY]

This seems demonstrably false.

If only, at the least, because the guidelines for HN discourage pointless and inane commentary. Reddit is very likely 95% funny one liners on the most active threads.

There are observably obvious differences, even if you don't agree with any inferences made from them.

[krapp]

I suspect you're confusing the quality of commentary with the quality of a commenter's expertise. Someone's comment can read as if they know what they're talking about, being well written and civil, without that commenter actually knowing what they're talking about.

Also, Reddit is not 95% funny one liners in technical or programming forums, and the guidelines for those often also discourage pointless and inane commentary. Go look at /r/askhistorians for one example. Reddit does have a higher tolerance for humor and memes than HN, but humorlessness is not necessarily an indicator of quality.

[LMYahooTFY]

To your second point, I agree, but I was comparing specifically the common top posts ("front page") to one another. HN is obviously more niche, but the ways in which its niche is defined are what I contend do, in fact, result in a better quality of discussion.

To your first point, I also concede that this phenomenon certainly does happen, but would counter with the notion that this probably happens with every conversation ever, with it perhaps tapering off in materials science discussions amongst experts.

I'd assert that it's happening right now, given that neither of us are likely informed enough to empirically support our assertions here. We're merely sharing our rather vague impressions.

[krapp]

>I'd assert that it's happening right now, given that neither of us are likely informed enough to empirically support our assertions here. We're merely sharing our rather vague impressions.

That's fair. A lot of what happens here can probably be described as anecdotes sparring with other anecdotes.

[qwsxyh]

> It is just a more polite /g/

No, it merely hides the insults behind 300 words of passive-aggressiveness.

[inamberclad]

HN is a tremendous pool of groupthink.

[DenisM]

Comments are pointers, not destinations.

If you make peace with this you will be much happier.