[alfiedotwtf]

> And they did "get it done", "it" was just a steaming pile of crap when it was done. "Why is this taking weeks to do - the previous guy was so much faster?"

When I mean JGID, I also meant not make it a steaming pile of shit :)

[mgkimsal]

> When I mean JGID, I also meant not make it a steaming pile of shit :)

the tldr of my post is that people often don't know the difference. We also have grown a culture of people promoting "YAGNI", and its easier for some people to dismiss basic ideas with YAGNI.

Yeah, adding 5 language translations to your project on day 1 - YAGNI.

Storing passwords in plaintext? You need something more than that.

[strken]

All the rules of thumb seem to have massive categories of exceptions where they don't work, and that makes me suspicious of applying new ones that I don't fully understand.

DRY up your code... unless the two code paths look similar but aren't the same.

YAGNI... unless "it" is a database backup, a load balancer, or test coverage of your signup flow.

KISS... unless your problem is complicated enough that a simple solution only implements half of what you need.

Microservices are great... if you've got more than one team and can support the operational overhead of SDN and service discovery. Monoliths are great... until you're pushing code to them every minute and they become impossible to refactor.

etc.

[mgkimsal]

and yeah, you should be suspicious of doing anything that you don't understand. this is all knowledge work, and there's some implicit notion that when you make a decision you have some level of understanding. the bigger the potential impact, the more understanding you should have.