[haskal]

With Phoenix + LiveView maybe you won't need the frontend.

[rlander]

It’s a great project, but I doubt it’ll ever reach the maturity and functionality of Reagent, Om, Rum. Fulcro, Datascript, re-frame and Hoplon.

[anthony_doan]

I wouldn't bet against Chris McCord and Jose Valim.

They've done a wonderful job with Phoenix and Elixir. I think this feature liveview will be develop as good as presence feature and eventually will be good enough.

[keymone]

it's such a weird concept to me.. "server-rendered html" is what i was doing most of my webdev career and suddenly it's the "hot new thing"?

anyway i still don't see why i would need it with Clojure if i can have single codebase and language for backend and frontend and render whatever i want at either -end.

[pdimitar]

Because with LiveView you can throw away 90% of your JavaScript and work almost exclusively with Elixir both on the frontend and the back end.

[keymone]

Right, but I could also throw away 100% of my JavaScript and not have to deal with any of the nodejs/npm/webpack/whatever nonsense if I used Clojure.