| > The Treaty of Paris (1783) ended the revolutionary battle. You took me literally there. I meant the PAST tense, but it seems I wrote the present active tense of "fight". > Nor do I understand your third paragraph It's opinion. That's my point. Nothing more. > Nor do I understand your 4th paragraph vis-a-vis 'power over such necessary things as maps'. ... "The data and basic API should at least come from a government source, I'd say. Let companies but whatever sugar they want on top of that". No, this is a bad idea. Sugar is just sugar, it's not control. When the government has control over access to information or channels to information, they get to manipulate the flow of info. For the sake of over simplicity (to make my point VERY clear), we might have an API that looks like this:
- getKey()
- getWeather(Key)
- getNewWeather(Key) Now suppose everyone knows function "getWeather" is more accurate than "getNewWeather". Naturally, they want to use "getWeather". But then some bureaucrat decides they need to manipulate the weather forecast to explain the downing of a helicopter (shot down by secret forces) or divert people away from driving near a secret airplane part that landed in the road. In other words, the gov would like to control what kind of weather people receive, so they tell everyone that getNewWeather is now an alias for getWeather and getKey now only returns a valid key for getNewWeather. Congratulations, the gov now controls the weather. > Regarding Native Americans.... So no, they weren't entitled to the same rights as US citizens. But they also weren't entitled to the same rights as foreign countries. How does that result in the sorts of self-governance that syshum desires? That's not what I was interpreting you arguing for. You said, "When did the Constitution ever respect the individualism and liberty of Native Americans?" Which I was saying, "It doesn't," and which you seem to agree with me by saying "they weren't entitled to the same rights as US citizens". The fact that some judge muddied the waters of "citizen" and "foreigner" is some leftover problem from a bygone era. At this point, I think we have different understandings as to what we're arguing. I wanted to reply (as anyone likes to do), but perhaps it's best to stop. My fault for butting in. |
My point is that the opinion of the US Supreme Court has far more of an impact than simply saying it's an opinion.
"When the government has control over access to information or channels to information, they get to manipulate the flow of info."
And when private industry has control over access it's better?
In any case, I am describing what we have now, with public service and private services. The private services are able to use the public information, and add their own observations, modeling, etc.
I can't think of any system which could prevent your (IMHO movie) scenarios. I mean, in real cases where secret planes crash and parts are everywhere, they don't do that now. And it seems pointless as most people don't drive/navigate that way.
"some leftover problem from a bygone era."
Recall that syshum wrote "it is sad we as a society has lost respect for indivualism and liberty".
I wanted to know which era that was.