[phailhaus]

> When they don't get "indirect reference to the address of a data structure or object in memory", I'm stuck on how to proceed

That's because to them, _everything_ is an "indirect reference". Every time they use a variable it feels like an indirect reference, so what the hell is so special about a pointer?

Took me an intro class in computer systems before I could really understand pointers, because nobody wanted to bite the bullet and teach me about the stack. Pointers don't make sense if you don't know that the stack and the heap exist.

[ci5er]

> Pointers don't make sense if you don't know that the stack and the heap exist.

Now, THAT's interesting...