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by choeger 2558 days ago
> This is a losing strategy for people who actually ride bikes, the correct one is to lower speed limits.

I do not think that this is going to cut it. On a good day I easily do 30kph on a good road (that's why I prefer the painted lanes, btw., they tend to give you access to paved roads). With wind, or exhaustion, or any number of reasons, that speed can drop downwards to 20kph. Now I am definitely not the most well-trained person on the streets, but I am among the faster cyclists. So there are many that can only go about 15kph or even slower.

So what speed limit would you actually pick? 20 would slow me down on my bike (I presume you do not belong to that minority that believes traffic rules do not apply to bikes), 30 would leave lots of slower cyclists behind.

In an ideal world, city roads with two lanes would be converted as follows: Speed limit of 60 on the broader left lane, with a minimum speed of 40 or a strict "no bikes" policy. A 2m cycle priority lane on the right, cars may use it but at most 30kph and have to leave it when overtaking. Lanes separated by engravings in the pavement that make noise. Maybe even by some kerbs. Parking on that right lane, in particular deliveries, should be a serious offence.

This way, in the case of serious congestion, cars can also take the right lane (I do not see any reason to demand a free road for any party in traffic), but will naturally use the left lane in better conditions.

This should be seconded by clear paths and traffic lights to turn left from that right lane and to turn right from that left lane.

4 comments

30km/h (19mile/h) is a reasonable speed limit within cities. Less fit cyclists can use electrical assistance to keep up. The money spent on useless paint can be switched to e-bike subsidies.
> I presume you do not belong to that minority that believes traffic rules do not apply to bikes

Personally, I don't see much reason for speed limits to apply to bikes, or at least, for a speed limit intended for cars to apply to bikes. The two classes of vehicles have different concerns.

doesn't look like they applies to cars either.
>So what speed limit would you actually pick?

No posted limit. What is safe and reasonable it is left to the road user's discretion. If you want people to slow then clog up the road with all sort of "traffic calming" measures.

Speed limits apply to motorized vehicles. Not to bicycles.