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by wtdata 2554 days ago
I disagree. It's certainly not a fair comparison to look at these issues per capita. I should not be morally responsible for people that have way to many childrten with no regard for sustainability (be it environmental or economical).

Each country should be responsible to make their territory carbon neutral. If they have an high or low population density should be an irrelevant point.
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Faark 2554 days ago
> It's certainly not a fair comparison to look at these issues per capita. [..] Each country should be responsible to make their territory carbon neutral

You want to shift the goal post to territory instead of population? Sure, lets do this. Wikipedia already has a nice sortable list ready for us [0], with the UK at 1,564, nearly 50% worse than China at 1,133 t CO2/km²/yr.

So, how do we want to define a next target, that allows us to keep telling ourselves someone else is the actual cause of the problem instead of us? GDP/Co2? Scientific papers / Co2? Top 10 watched movies/Co2? Options are unlimited, so I'm sure we'll find something in the end. But maybe we should actually verify whatever we propose doesn't also make us look like the bad guys, since constantly shifting the goal post kinda makes us look like fools.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_di...

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wtdata 2554 days ago
UK is already diminishing their CO2 emissions for 30 years now and is set to continue decreasing them.

China increased them by 300% in 30 years and is set to continue increasing then.

All in all, UK seting their emissions at 0% wouldn't do anything for global warming. But China decreasing them by 50% would probably save us all. Yet, these so called environmentalists, keep finding excuses for letting China go on with their business as usual, which makes it really clear they are not interested in the well being off the planet but in social upveal and some kind of revolution in Europe to install their ideology (which has very little of environmentalism) in power.

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llamathrowaway 2554 days ago
You should be thankful towards China then.

Who knows how many more people would have been born if they did not enforce their one child policy or whatever.

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