[peterwwillis]

If this works, this is fantastic. Getting away from the stupidly complex abstractions around Docker is a welcome change, especially if we can still package and deploy immutable images. We already manage containers like tiny VMs, so ditching the abstractions should simplify life a bit.

[seabrookmx]

> stupidly complex abstractions

Not sure what you mean.. could you give some examples?

In my experience, people prefer Docker over VM's because they _like_ the abstractions and tooling associated with it. It's a lot friendlier to developers and makes immutable infrastructure a much more realistic goal for ops folks, IMO.

[tssva]

Have you looked at LXD/LXC? I find it to be a great compromise between the high overhead of VMs and the complex abstractions around Docker.

[peterwwillis]

Yes, it's still just more abstractions. If you look at the way people use ECS, allocating specific resource limits to each container, it's basically a micro EC2 node. And for me, the only reason I use containers is to make it easier to package and run applications immutably. If I can do that without "containerisms", all the better. It also seems like VMs would solve a good deal of multi-tenancy issues.

[eeZah7Ux]

SystemD does that.