[threeseed]

Not sure what any of this means.

Kubernetes does not prevent you from using an optimized JVM to run your application. In fact it doesn't even involve itself at that level rather it focuses just on managing containers which can have anything inside them.

And Kubernetes actually has far more observability than most distributed applications since you can get plugins which trace/monitor every connection between containers as well as monitor the health of each container.

I think what you're after is a PaaS on top of Kubernetes ? Well there are many of those around as well.

[glennpratt]

Yes, you can get a bunch of pieces that need a team to evaluate and operate. You are saying the same thing and somehow making it a disagreement?