[jlelonm]

What is the better way to figure out what clients want? Conversations?

[JamesBarney]

Yeah it takes a lot less time to have a conversation than to build an app.

Makings the cold calls and cold emails felt a lot easier with an app built but at least in my experience didn't make a big difference in response rate.

[takanori]

The best way is to have that problem yourself while working in at an ideal customer.