[ycombobreaker]

I get that, but... butts-in-seats as an expectation for the work day (which is typically where the policy/work culture is called out), is quite different from a butts-in-seats expectation for meetings where one has a "real role".

[couchand]

Can you clarify your position here? What do you see as the main issue with butts-in-literal-seats, and what about this hypothetical remote meeting is "quite different"?

[ycombobreaker]

GP cited "butts in seats mentality" in a way that I interpret as pejorative, referring to office cultures where physical presence during working hours is more important than output.

A meeting is specifically about communication. A participant at the meeting that is inattentive is either wasting others' time, or should probably politely step out, or at least should not have been asked to attend. Being present is a priority for a good meeting, hence the pejorative "butts in seats" comment doesn't make sense to me.

[couchand]

The output of an interactive meeting is the interactivity, not the appearance of interactivity.

[ycombobreaker]

I don't disagree with this; I just think dropping the video feed can impact the interactivity of a meeting.