[delfinom]

Being in said county, they actually time and report the light timing on the traffic tickets. They actually don't undertime any of the lights from my experience. We really do have bad drivers.

But what happens here is, they pick an intersection, add lights, catch people running it for 2 years, eventually it drops to 0 as everyone gets used it and then proceed to move it to another intersection as the county still pays a minimum invoice to the vendor per month. And once they move it people start running it and the cycle repeats.

The shitty part is the cameras also flagging right hand red turns, you have to basically sit "3 seconds" stopped before doing so by law but it sure as shit better be "double mississipi seconds" or you get a ticket. So people just stop making right on reds at camera intersections and slow down traffic for everyone.¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[HankB99]

The flip side of that is drivers who make a right turn on red w/out stopping - slowing down only enough to maintain control of their vehicle. Some also ignore the signs that stipulate no right turn on red when pedestrians are present, even if there are pedestrians in the crosswalk. I've been nearly run over a couple times in that situation. They're looking for approaching traffic and not where they're going.

As far as simply running red lights, some percentage of drivers - perhaps 1-5% do that at any given intersection. That's often enough that I have to look both ways before proceeding on green to avoid getting hit. That in spite of the 2 second delay between red and green lights. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

This is in the Chicago suburbs, not sure of other areas. Chicago did have a reputation for shortening the yellow when cameras were installed. I didn't notice that where I live.