[jimclegg]

>In the west, instead, its a little bit more back and forth between tech and government.

Hand over data or shut down your company is the ultimatum.

[mrep]

That wasn't the case when the FBI tried to get apple to unlock iphones for them [0].

[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FBI–Apple_encryption_dispute

[lone_haxx0r]

Because Apple is too big. Had Apple been a smaller company, that would have been the ultimatum.