[cyphar]

There is a counter-argument to git -- namely Sun had TeamWare[1] (the prequel to BitKeeper) and thus you could argue that git is still a "shoddy reimplementation". But this of course ignores the fact that TeamWare was almost completely unknown outside Sun until BitKeeper came along (at which point it was just an element of BitKeeper's history), and that git is objectively superior in many metrics to TeamWare.

Personally I think GCC, Apache, and nginx are much better counter-arguments.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_WorkShop_TeamWare

[Annatar]

Quite unfortunately for all of us condemned to use GNU/Linux:

- GCC exists because Sun Studio compilers weren't free back then;

- Apache is the next generation NCSA web server;

- nginex is a re-invented Apache wheel.

Do you have any more examples to get corrected on? I'll be glad to set you straight, in the hope that unlike your Linux buddies you are capable of learning.

They are simply amateurs wanting to play engineers, but they never were engineers and never will be, and it shows in just how shitty GNU/Linux based operating systems are. Hacked up together by hackers according to the "hack it 'till it works, man!" motto. And they don't learn from their mistakes or from the mistakes of others, on top of being deeply convicted that they are the best.

Find me one technology invented in GNU/Linux which UNIX did not already invent and I will publicly retract my statement here. Just one.

[cyphar]

Okay, here are two examples: rsync and restic[1] (an evolution of borgbackup[2]). You already know what rsync is, but the other two are backup tools that offer encryption and content-based deduplication. There is no distinction between a "full" backup and an "incremental" backup.

Now, I already know that you're going to say that "zfs send" already does these things -- but it really doesn't. First of all, ZoL only recently got encryption support so built-in encryption with ZFS only came around recently (and was developed by someone from the GNU/Linux community, by the way). Also, ZFS's dedup is so expensive that it's very strongly recommended that people don't use it unless they really need it. Deduplication with restic and borgbackup is content-based which means that it's far more resilient to shifting bytes in files and it's effectively free because everything is stored as a CAS (to be fair, it's only mostly free because people don't use it as a filesystem).

Again, I really am not bagging on Sun here. I just think it's quite ludicrous that you're saying that any engineer who didn't work at Sun pre-2010 never invented anything. I refuse to believe that you honestly believe that, purely based on how ludicrous of a concept it is.

[1]: https://restic.net/ [2]: https://www.borgbackup.org/

[Annatar]

Sorry buddy, but https://illumos.org/man/1/filesync predates rsync.

Borgbackup is a third party, unbundled application. I don't see what it has to do with people hacking on GNU/Linux like mad.

"I just think it's quite ludicrous that you're saying that any engineer who didn't work at Sun pre-2010 never invented anything."

You didn't get it quite right: I'm saying that professional engineers worked at Sun Microsystems, hp and SGI. That's statement #1. Statement #2 is that people working on GNU/Linux are amateurs who didn't invent anything. Statement #3 is that because they are amateurs who are incapable of learning, they just keep hacking shit together haphazardly and will never be engineers like the people from Sun, hp and SGI. Especially SGI: SGI had the best engineers. Those people were way ahead of their time in every technical aspect imaginable.

"I refuse to believe that you honestly believe that, purely based on how ludicrous of a concept it is."

Believe it. GNU/Linux people are amateurs. They don't have it in them. They want to be thought of as engineers but they aren't. They just aren't capable of it. That's why GNU and GNU/Linux are garbage and will never be anything more than a pile of haphazard, shoddily slapped together hacks. That's the world we live in now, where IT is shit thanks to their shitty, shoddy work.

[cyphar]

Dave Chinner is an ex-SGI engineer who has been working on XFS since the beginning of the project and is currently a Linux kernel maintainer. Brendan Gregg is ex-Sun and worked on DTrace and currently is helping improve Linux's tracing capabilities. Are they "amateurs who are incapable of learning" or "professional engineers"?

I've seen comments from you about how GNU/Linux is awful in every respect ever since you created your account ~3 years ago. I really can't imagine being so stuck in a mindset that you feel the need to spend so much of your time being angry about such a large community of people. Honestly, I just don't get it and I earnestly hope that this is just an online persona you have.

[Annatar]

Dave and Brendan are former SGI and Sun engineers. They are refugees. They gave up. So once again we're back to what I said: either one came from SGI, or hp, or Sun Microsystems, but one sure as hell didn't come from the GNU/Linux being an engineer, nor will such a thing ever happen. For 20 years they've been hacking furiously on Linux and still the basic things don't work correctly. That's what happens when one hacks instead of system engineering solutions.

"I really can't imagine being so stuck in a mindset that you feel the need to spend so much of your time being angry about such a large community of people."

Computers were my life, my passion, my calling. They destroyed all that passion in me with their GNU and their GNU/Linux. I will not forget. I will not forgive. They made my professional life a living hell. I hate working in IT because of those people and their mentality.

"Honestly, I just don't get it and I earnestly hope that this is just an online persona you have."

  You must be the change in the world you wish to see.

And I believe that, deeply. I'm absolutely convicted about it. Even if I single handedly must teach apprentices, I will continue to fight until the last drop of blood against GNU and against GNU/Linux and teach people, person by person if I must, as I have been, showing them one on one how awful it is and how superior and easy a real UNIX like SmartOS is. Either until I die or manage to get out of IT. Because truly awful things like GNU and GNU/Linux deserve to be relegated to dark history of IT, and some good and beautiful, well thought out things like SmartOS are worth fighting for. I will continue to fight against ignorance and trend pandering and for enlightment. I will strain like buddha strained if I must. Some things are just worth fighting for and some things one must make a stand against, no matter the cost to oneself. I am forced to work on and with GNU/Linux because people think like you, but I will fight it and resist it every step of the way and I will continue to teach because working on Linux and with GNU/Linux is more work, not less work for me. That alone is more than enough to motivate me.