[klipt]

> every fresh batch of graduates who come into the workforce are equally terrible at advocating for themselves

cough the problem is further up the pipeline cough.

[klodolph]

The way you've phrased it, it sounds like you think what you're saying is obvious, but it's not obvious to me. What are you saying?

[klipt]

If universities are producing graduates who can't advocate for themselves, can we fix that while they're still in university? Or maybe even secondary/primary education?

[klodolph]

I think that’s the assumption, but it takes a lifetime to do that. Being an advocate for yourself is the defining characteristic of adulthood, to me. I don’t think it’s something you pick up in the classroom, it’s very experiential. So I would be happy if people did things like work and live on their own during a gap year, then go back to college.

I definitely think this skill shouldn’t be tied to university.

[chongli]

Graduates have a problem: massive debt. FAANG offer a solution: high salary. Until this situation changes, you'll see a steady flow of fresh meat into the grinder.