[bongobongo]

Labor always has leverage. The question is whether or not it is organized enough to use it.

[Ericson2314]

Atomation does fundamentally change this, even if it's only by a little so far.

[bongobongo]

Automation shifts labor; it does not eliminate it.

[Ericson2314]

Sometimes that happens, but why always? And that's a bug not a feature in my book to the extent it is true.

[billy_beef]

Perhaps, but someone still has to build and maintain the automation, no?

[Ericson2314]

Oh sure, but as many people as before?