[signal11]

> On Day One, the entire workforce of every company becomes "contractors".

This is going to be increasingly difficult in Europe as they focus on “disguised employees” or “perm-tractors”. The UK has already implemented this rule (IR35) for the public sector, with the private sector set to follow suit in 2020. And the EU are beginning to consider how to clamp down on the practice.

[gubbrora]

It seems a lot of Americans think well the rich will just find loopholes let's just give up. I don't get it.

[smacktoward]

The rich here spend an awful lot of money encouraging us to think that way.

[munificent]

Cynicism is one of the most effective tools of the powerful.

[rahimnathwani]

Nitpick: IR35 was announced in 1999, and came into force in 2000.

[pja]

There has been a recent tightening of the interpretation of IR35 by HMRC which has been applied to the public sector first. I imagine it’s to this that the comment you’re replying to is referring.

(Essentially as I understand things they’re no longer allowing contractors to make the decision as to whether they’re inside IR35 or not, but making the companies paying them make that decision & bear the liability for getting it wrong.)

[signal11]

I don’t believe the new rules around perma-contracting were ever applied to the private sector. Even the public sector guidance is dated 2017[1].

[1] https://www.gov.uk/guidance/off-payroll-working-in-the-publi...

[MiroF]

if employee representatives are on the board, these sort of unilateral decisions by management become a lot harder