[Pepe1vo]

I get the sentiment against Electron, there are horribly bloated applications out there which are a direct consequence of how (badly) Electron was built and designed.

However, this particular application appears to work exactly as intended and uses all of 150MB of RAM and 0.1% CPU on my (admittedly quite beefy) laptop. Maybe, just maybe, this is actually a pretty well-built application? I understand if someone won't use this program because it doesn't scratch their particular itch. But, not using something solely because of the techniques used to build it, seems a bit elitist to me.

[EForEndeavour]

Your comment snapped me out of the RAM-obliviousness in which I usually live and work. I know memory is plentiful on modern PCs, but 150 MB of RAM for a note-taking app!?

[nepeckman]

Its a note taking app that renders HTML. Arguably, this is an ideal case for an electron app. 150 MB for a internet connected, syncing, HTML rendering note app doesn't seem unreasonable to me

[gremlinsinc]

Checkout vnote, found it today actually.. checks all the boxes. Seems pretty good and built using c++ https://github.com/tamlok/vnote

[jamesgeck0]

Markdown generates extremely basic HTML. Browsers twenty years old render Markdown output satisfactorily. This sort of application is the ideal place to use a webview provided by the host operating system.

[dangus]

Anyone can be an armchair quarterback, but this solo developer has made seemingly a great product that people really like.

I don't think it matters very much what underlying frameworks are being used, especially to the end user.

If it's so easy to implement this natively on five platforms (Mac, Windows, Linux, iOS, and Android), please send us your link to your native cloud-syncing markdown note taking app, I'd really like to see it.

[jamesgeck0]

> I don't think it matters very much what underlying frameworks are being used, especially to the end user.

Every Electron text editing app I've used has noticeable input latency and hitching compared to native on my system.

> If it's so easy...

It's practically part of the human experience to have opinions about technology you haven't personally developed. The author can build their software however they want. I just won't use it.

[dangus]

If you have no plans to try this product I wonder why you claim it has performance issues or should have been architected in a different way, and why you're wasting all of our time by vocalising assumptions about an application based on its underlying technology.

I haven't been able to find any other five-platform markdown based note taking app with plugin support and cloud sync, so I'm still awaiting your link to a superior native alternative. It seems like Electron itself specifically enabled this application to exist.

If you can detect the input lag in Visual Studio Code I should commend your superior reflexes and genetic makeup.

[ken]

The built-in Notes.app takes over 100 MB here. Yes, that's apparently what apps take these days.

[diminoten]

Why does it matter? 150 MB is pennies now.

Caring about resource utilization like it's 2000 is an absurd exercise, I really wish the community would stop.

[jammygit]

It’s not the ram for me but how long electron apps take to open that gets me

[sorenjan]

Windows 98 needed 16 MB RAM and 120-295 MB harddrive storage. Why would a note taking app need more memory than an entire OS?

Because browsers are their own OS pretty much, and shipping one per application is not ideal.

[ken]

I made a new default Mac application in Xcode just now and ran it. It settled in at 17.1 MB, according to Activity Monitor's Memory tab. It's not "a note taking app". It's every app. Welcome to 2019.

[dangus]

Can we stop this kind of non-constructive criticism? Nobody here would ever choose to voluntarily go back to Windows 98 or anything similar from that era.

Using this same logic we'd be demanding that Netflix run over a 56K modem. It's a completely not realistic.

I would very much like to see your cloud syncing solo-developed markdown note taking app with HTML rendering available for Mac, Windows, Linux, Android, and iOS that uses under 16 MB of RAM. Or maybe you could point me to something of the sort that existed in 1998.

I'm sure you've got a quick link to that so I'm looking forward to trying it out.

[bspammer]

Because aesthetics do matter, and if you want something that looks nicer than Windows 98 and have the RAM to spare then why not?