[lucideer]

> If you are saying that the total cost of the Iraq war should be rolled into the cost of plastic widgets, I think you are very wrong.

I am saying that. I'm also saying the cost of the lifecycle of plastic production and recycling/disposal, including environmental cost (which we have plenty of proxies for these days in terms of representing using economic metrics) should be rolled in.

(and yes, the same goes for aluminium: it too has ancillary costs to consider)