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by alexmlamb 2575 days ago
Just to be clear, this doesn't necessarily mean that the students got the degree through fraud or low standards.

Speaking and listening can be harder than reading and writing, so the students might be doing good work even if their spoken language isn't very good. Also in technical subjects you might not need to know the language well to pass the tests and do the homeworks.

As an example, I have an Msc from a French language university, but I can't really understand the language.

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> Just to be clear, this doesn't necessarily mean that the students got the degree through fraud or low standards.

From what I understand of the process there are meant to be English literacy tests for ESL students and I think most of them have a spoken component. It's not necessarily the students (some or even most of them would be the victims) but someone in the system certainly is certainly fraudulent.

As for technical competency of the ones I've worked with in the intern program, they're lucky we didn't get to select them because they wouldn't have passed the most basic coding test (simpler than fizzbuzz) in any language. It was much more than the practical vs theoretical divide too, as far as I could tell they were completely bereft of theoretical knowledge, even the basics of their masters specialties.