[TomVDB]

The question was not "who do you trust", but "who do you trust more".

Given that Google's business model depends on data sharing whereas Apple has made privacy one of their core features, I think the answer has to be Apple, even if you don't trust them entirely.

[hobofan]

> The question was not "who do you trust", but "who do you trust more".

The question doesn't _need_ to be "who do you trust more". (I know that I'm mostly repeating the parents points).

I don't want a Google login.

I don't want a Apple login.

I don't want a Facebok login.

I want a good old email/username login!

[ignoramous]

> I want a good old email/username login!

Absolutely. One would still be able to do that (Apple's providing SSO here, not enforcing any guidelines, as of today). Though, I'm happy that friends and family would be able to choose anonymous per-app email-ids on the fly and still be able to SSO.

[philwelch]

So you trust your password manager and perhaps whatever system encrypts your password manager data to share it across devices?

[hesarenu]

They care for privacy only for people who are willing to pay their high prices though.

[fastball]

Are you implying that Apple should care about the privacy of people who are not their customers?

How would that work?

[hesarenu]

op mentioned apple core is privacy. i implies that they care it only for their high end customers. They could anytime do a low end mobile if privacy was their core. Their core is like any other business get maximum profits.

[fastball]

Apple's premium price is exactly what allows them to focus on privacy.

Google/Facebook/etc. are able to offer you cheap products and services because they're selling your privacy to the highest bidder.

Apple is not doing this (because they care about privacy), so they need to charge a much higher price for similar products.

This is somewhat of a chicken and egg problem (did Apple care about privacy and charge a premium price, or did charging a premium price allow them to start caring about privacy?), but that's arguably not important. What's important is that Apple cares about privacy when their competitors do not.

[hesarenu]

If Apple cared about privacy they would have left China instead of giving up it's iCloud key.

They are focusing on it because of business sense. To upsell people who are able to buy those expensive devices otherwise all devices are now more or less can do the work.

Apple can easily lower their price to match android. They do have insane profits. But I don't see they care about lower class people.

[fastball]

If "business sense" causes them to make business decisions which increase my privacy when I use their products, I don't care what the rational is.