[OldSchoolJohnny]

Why are we as developers giving this company any of our business when they've thumbed their noses at us for decades?

[asark]

Everyone else's software/hardware is just that bad, so Apple can fuck around for years and switching's still a tough sell. That's why I'm still around, anyway. This WWDC looks like a move in the right direction for the first time in a while, at least.

[octorian]

Because we as developers also desperately want a UNIX-style system, and our lives are so much easier when we can choose one that won't get us laughed out of the room by commercial software vendors.

[threeseed]

Weird. As a developer I haven't found Apple to be thumbing their nose at me.

Many of their features are genuinely useful for my development e.g. TouchBar.

[eppsilon]

Genuinely curious: how have you found TouchBar useful for development? I think you're the first dev I've seen say that.

[threeseed]

Because I can fully customise it using something like BetterTouchTool.

And so in IntelliJ I have custom buttons for executing common commands. I never remembered what each function key does in each app so it's useful for me.

[ASalazarMX]

Maybe it's useful because its position is ideal to emulate the missing function keys.

[mmargerum]

I'd rather have my escape key back.

[bitwize]

Because that's where the high-roller users are.

[ulfw]

Because we don’t develop things just for ourselves, we develop it for our users who happen to love Apple products.