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by jaylaal 2580 days ago
Why do you focus on the mice, when the article talks about two studies, one of which was longer term and done on humans? "Crucially, these changes in gut bacteria have translated into behavioural changes. Even 18 weeks after treatment started the children had begun showing reduced symptoms of autism. After two years, only three of them still rated as severe, while eight fell below the diagnostic cut-off point for asd altogether. These eight thus now count as neurotypical."
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Because he knows something relevant about the mouse study, but not the human study. He's not objecting to the conclusions or tone of the Economist article, just the mouse study. Seems legit to me.
n = 18

What is the probability that 8 ASD kids out of 18 would be neurotypical after 2 years even without the treatment?

Also, it looks like it was uncontrolled from what I can tell. Anyone seen the actual study?
This seems to be the human study: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-019-42183-0
Yes, it's open label.