[sjwright]

Seriously? PHP is famously a hot mess whose biggest key selling point is its immense popularity. Most criticisms thrown at CFML also apply to PHP.

As for Groovy, I meant to say Grails. I don’t really know, I just remember it touted heavily ten years ago. Every time I check out Groovy I am forced to ask what the point is. Looks like dumbed down Java to me. If you’re going to dumb down Java, do it properly and make a language as dumb as CFML. :-)