[Ensorceled]

"We don't need the gold plated version, we just this to work and we need to ship it YESTERDAY"

If you try to explain they just say things like "don't write bad code so you won't need tests and refactoring"

My new rule of thumb is: don't work for companies without a technical co-founder.

[blt]

I agree having technical leadership makes a huge difference. Still, most developers don't realize that if they push back hard enough, a lot of those loud "done yesterday" requirements dissolve. Non technical people always ask for more than they expect they'll get.

[Ensorceled]

True, but at some point, it's just exhausting. Every conversation is an exercise in pushing back.