[tracker1]

The human body absolutely needs fats... most highly available sources of protein tend to come with 0.5 to 4g of fat per 1g of protein. If you need 80-120g of protein a day, you should probably be getting 40-80g of fats per day.

Generally speaking most dietary fat for pre-agricultural man would come from fish, meat or fatty fruits and tree nuts. All of which are/were prevalent and common. As to the sourcing, my own opinion is that the more refined the source, the less natural it is... which means that most seed oil sources are anything but natural to take in any significant quantity.

I tend to stick to lard, butter, evoo, avocado oil, and occasional walnut oil for cooking or salad use.

[vfc1]

The body needs fats but many plant foods have some fat on it. Oats for example are 17% fat, so if you eat them for breakfast that is a great start.

Most nuts and seeds are also almost 100% fat, plus many fruits and vegetables contain some fat.

You mention 80-120g of protein a day, that is probably more like 50g. Most people overeat on protein, which leads to all sort of issues like kidney problems, etc.

On the other hand, most people don't eat enough fiber, which leads to all sorts of digestive issues that are consider normal but are not.

For example, getting diarrhea or constipation every other month, carrying around anti-diarrhea pills, etc.

This is not normal and does not happen while eating enough whole plant foods, but it's socially considered normal because its so prevalent.

Most people get 15g or less of fiber per day, while they should be getting 30 to 50, that is one the main problem with the western diet, and not the lack of protein.

[Sawamara]

You are bullshitting against fats and vegetables, for what reason I do not know.

But nuts and seeds are NOT "almost 100%" percent fat. They range from fat contents of 30g to upwards 70-75g per 100g (walnuts, for example, are on a higher end of this, so are hazelnuts. Almonds, pistachio are the middle ground, while peanuts - technically legume, I know -are on the lower side.

The rest? 8-10 percent carbs, 10g+ fiber (some contain less, some much more), and anything between 10 to 30% protein (highest ones, again are almonds and peanuts, and sesame seeds).

This is very easy to verify, you just need to do a quick googling. I do not know why anyone would clame this. Some of your other claims are going to be harder to look up, so I would like some citations, like the ones with olive oils STICKING TO YOUR ABDOMEN :P

[vfc1]

Yes indeed almost 100% is an exaggeration, nuts are in general mostly fat, typically 70% to 80%. I think they are an awesome food by the way, shown to be very healthy, unlike oil.

Its very different eating nuts from eating oil, because nuts are whole foods, you are getting a lot more than the fat when you eat a nut, as you mention.

But they are to be eaten in moderation, not by the bags.

The quote about olive oil I heard in one of Dr McDougall videos on oil on YouTube, although which video I cannot tell.

Probably in this video he will talk about it, it's his longest video on oil - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptF0KuF8xHU&t=74s

Anyway, my bottom line is that oil is not a health food, unlike popular belief.

Reasons being: it's almost only liquid fat with little nutritional content (those vitamins can be easily obtained elsewhere), and it's the number one source of hidden calories in food and one of the multiple causes for the obesity epidemic in the west.

Easting olives is healthy, but eating olive oil is not. Eating an extract of a food is very different from eating the whole food.

[tracker1]

I'm not saying people aren't getting enough protein... I use 80-120g as that's the range for a lean body weight of 220#, or 100kg - which is roughly my lean body weight (though mine is wrapped in a protective layer of fat).

Also, getting up to 2x the suggested protein range (minimum is 0.8g:kg to 1.2g:kg) rarely has the complications you mention. I'm also not suggesting that people don't eat general plant food. I'm not big on refined foods overall though, and that includes refined vegetable oils.

Most people are afraid of fat, and specifically animal fat for no good reason. Fatty cuts from grass fed ruminant animals are one of the lowest inflammation foods you can have and eating nose to tail is a very good nutrition balance. For every correlation survey based study associating disease to red meat, there is a much higher correlation to refined grains, sugars and oils.

IMHO, people should eat closer to real/whole foods that they prepare themselves. And imho, this can and should include some meat, fish and plenty of eggs (another food staple that gets a lot of undue negative press).

[vfc1]

You should look after your health more, if you are young it won't affect but wait until you hit 40.

Just saying, if you weight 100kg, even if you would be 2 meters tall you would still be overweight.

You can check that according to any BMI calculator like this one https://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/educational/lose_wt/BMI/bmi...