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by inetknght 2580 days ago
You present one well-honored experience. I present a stark contrast to it.

> My wife and I homeschool, but we have our kids pushing well beyond their grade level in every subject.

My parents told themselves the same thing. I apparently had top percentile test scores in several early years, particularly in math. Despite that, my parents completely failed to provide an education after choosing to homeschool.

> She had a teaching license up until a couple of years ago (they do expire after a while) and taught for several years before we had kids.

Neat! Not that it really matters, but I am curious: what did she teach?

> they're also plugged in with a local co-op with more than thirty kids that they meet up with several times a week.

That's also something my parents told themselves and others. Despite that, it wasn't exactly an honest statement. We met with other church members about once every week for about a month. Then about once every quarter of a year for about a year. Then basically never, while my parents fell deep into paranoia.

> it can also be the platform for an elite education like no other.

Yes, it can. But my experience brings with me a very skeptical mind.

> There's a reason the wealthiest families in American pay for private tutors and elite schools with tiny class sizes. Nothing beats one on one from a capable instructor.

While you're right in that there's a reason for private tutors and elite schools, I think you're wrong about your conclusion for the wealthy. I think wealthy parents don't want their children to associate with poor people who can't afford to hire their own private lessons. I think that's also a despicably-elitist action.

> They'll walk away from this better equipped than any of their peers in traditional school.

It's almost as if you're parroting the same things my parents said. Indeed, I walked away better equipped for computers than pretty much anyone I know. But that's more of a byproduct of spending years in front of a computer than anything that my parents actively tried to teach. Where I gained knowledge about computers there's also loss of other opportunities and knowledge.

> Honestly, if there is anything wrong with homeschooling itself, it's that it is only available to middle and upper class families.

You are wrong. I consider myself middle class. Almost all of my family are somewhere between poor and destitute.

3 comments

Sorry you had such a bad time of it.

I know some people who were homeschooled as kids (unschooled, in one case), and they turned out to be exceptional people. It seems pretty clear from interacting with them that their attitudes and abilities are a direct result of their schooling (and having parents who would be willing to school their kids in that way).

But I'm sure homeschooling can also turn out very badly if the parents aren't fully committed to doing it well.

Survivorship bias? By definition, you are not likely to meet all the kids who failed miserably with homeschooling. Instead, you are more likely to interact socially or at work with the ones that did great. Therefore, your observation is likely to be biased.
Yeah, fair. I haven’t taken a broad sample of homeschooled kids.

But I do think there’s some signal in the fact that I’m dealing with the success cases of public and home schooling, and the homeschooled ones stand out as exceptional in that population.

What kinds of conclusions can reasonably be drawn from that, though, I don’t know.

I've known several people, like yourself, that had that sort of abusive experience while homeschooling. We've built our system with the specific purpose of avoiding those pitfalls. I think you're projecting your suffering on us and not seeing the reality of what homeschooling is like outside a paranoid, anarcho-religious context. I empathize, but I'm not convinced there are any actual similarities.
Tying back to your earlier comment, it doesn’t sound like your parents would have fit well with your public school system or stayed involved.