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by msbarnett
2585 days ago
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> But they do not claim that hardware mitigations are necessary. They claim that they need to change browser architecture a little bit For Spectre, that’s enough; for Spectre-class Intel permission exploit vectors (aka, Meltdown, Fallout, ZombieLoad, RIDL, Store to Leak Forwarding and other MDS vulnerabilities) all of the same infeasability of browser mitigations apply but data also leaks across process boundaries, so process isolation does jack shit to protect you without lower level mitigations. There’s nothing whatsoever browsers can do to prevent this. Process memory read isolation effectively doesn’t exist in the presence of unpatched Intel MDS vulnerabilities. > So with improved browsers it's still unclear why ordinary users need those performance-eating mitigations, when browser vendors managed to solve that problem themselves. The unclarity is only in your misunderstanding of the relationship of MDS vulnerabilities on Intel to Spectre vulnerabilities in general. |
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