[craftyguy]

> a lot of the value of HN is in the comments

I'd say this is rarely the case, the exception being technical posts where alternatives, etc are discussed. Most of the content on 'hacker' 'news' are product announcement spam and tesla/bitcoin/737/facebook drama posts that continue beating the respective dead horses. The comments sections for these are filled folks having 'discussions' inspired by the article title by throwing anecdotes at each other, and armchair investigators throwing anecdotes at each other in vain attempts to argue for/against whatever they interpret the article title to mean.

Very often I find myself just visiting 'hacker' 'news' while signed out to find interesting articles to read in all the drama noise and obvious spam.

n-gate.com, while meant to be a very sarcastic take on HN, is surprisingly accurate in their descriptions.