[saintPirelli]

I see a lot of scepticism towards CrossFit here and it's probably with good reason, but I just want to add that your experience with the method of training is very dependant on the actual gym you go to.

Where I started training (and I was like the definition of "out of shape") the coaches preach form > intensity every step of the way and actually forbid you to do any dynamic movement before you have not sufficently mastered the strict equivalent. That said, I have also met Crossfitters that can do ten unbroken kipping pull ups and not a single strict one, which is obviously incredibly irresponsible and stupid.

I have now moved away from doing regular CrossFit workouts for many of the reasons listed in this thread, but I can honestly say, that changing my habits from couchpotato to fit dude would have not happened if it wasn't for the community and the style of training I have encoutered there. I learned how to backsquat there, I learned how to lock in my shoulders there, I learned how to stretch there, I learned about the basics of training methodology there. This would have never happend if I would have just gone to Planet Fitness (or whatever) on my own.

[dsl]

I'm not judging CrossFit on the program or its value. I take great issue with this straight up anti-vaxx type of thinking:

"Facebook is acting in the service of food and beverage industry interests by deleting the accounts of communities that have identified the corrupted nutritional science responsible for unchecked global chronic disease."

science is responsible for disease, listen to us instead

[smsm42]

Replacing "corrupted nutritional science" with just "science", as if they deny science as a concept, is a very dishonest rhetorical trick. We have seen very bad nutritional advice given under the guise of "nutritional science" for years, and now we know that advice was very bad. We're still not entirely sure, as far as I know, how good nutritional advice looks like, in many cases, and it may be completely appropriate to point to some nutritional advice as bad nutritional science. And yes, using such advice can cause disease - just as using "science" at the time which denied the germ theory was the cause of many cases of disease. It's a very far cry from denying whole science or even nutritional science.

[dsl]

Using it with the tone that "Big Doritos" is buying off Facebook to help silence dissenting voices in nutrition is disingenuous.

Sure there is lots of bad advice floating around - but claiming a conspiracy requires some hard evidence be put forth.

[smsm42]

Depending of what you call "conspiracy". Does US Government promoting disastrous nutritional advice for decades and pushing the food industry to produce what we now recognize as extremely unhealthy products qualify as "conspiracy"? Does reluctance of the industry to recognize just how bad those are because they sell extremely well and some are likely to be physiologically and psychologically addictive - constitute a "conspiracy"? Maybe not, since it happens in the open and evidence of it is literally in front of our own eyes every time we go to the supermarket. Does it make anything better if it's not qualified as "conspiracy"?

[ibeckermayer]

Not only are you dishonest about them denying “science”, but you’re embarrassingly uninformed about a topic that you speak with such smug superiority about. Are NPR and Harvard also nut job conspiracy whackos?

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/09/13/493739074...