[empath75]

From talking to professional producers I know, it takes roughly 10 years of practice to produce music that’s professional quality. Those stories you see of 18 year old DJ’s knocking out number one records? Most of them have been taking music classes since they were small children (or someone else is producing their music for them).

So if you suck at it, that’s normal. You just have to stick with it.

[shearskill]

Mmm you should watch some FL studio videos too, it’s all programming but FL was a shortcut for a lot of beats producers I’ve met in the wild. Music training def helps, sampling is alternate shortcut. I agree with yr comment but would reverse the paragraphs - it’s a learning curve and sucking is part of it but 10 years is too far away. Figure out what’s fun with it. Ableton is frustrating for someone who starts from zero but once you get going... there’s more stuff to get lost in.

Back to where I agree w you - OP and OPZ are really more tools for musicians who just need a cool keyboard. Seeing ppl who play live shows with them is nerd nirvana.

[empath75]

Looping a couple of beats is not pro-quality music production.

There’s more to it than music theory. Even if you’re just slapping a couple of loops together there’s a lot of knowledge about djing and such that you need to have before you know what would be successful.

[njepa]

10 years is probably a realistic mean. If you have experience with music, creative software and doesn't expect a finished product then it can take a shorter time of course. Teenage engineering were founded by marketers, they are selling dreams.

[tazard]

I've been sucking at music for over 20 years, but I still think it's fun. I think I agree with the 10 year mean though.