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by nonamechicken 2588 days ago
The students who come to US for MS spend 2 years of their studies. They are not going to magically follow American culture all of a sudden. If one goes to any Hindu temple in US, you will find a huge number of these students.

Another thing is H4 is not something unique to the Infosys crowd. The Infosys crowd usually gets sent back to India once their deputation is over, they don't even get a chance to apply for h4.

An h1b spouse gets h4 only after the h1b's employer files for their green card and they complete the i140 stage. Companies usually file this towards the end of 6 years so that the h1bs are forced to continue with their employer for as long as possible. So the spouses would be waiting doing absolutely nothing during that period. Compared to those working in American consultancies, the Infosys crowd rarely gets a chance to stay in US for that long. So majority of h4 beneficiaries are not working for the likes of Infosys.

>Now these people are mostly by themselves and invested heavily for their education. No reason why these people flock to so called 'consultancies'. -

The reality is these US students are one of the biggest groups who flock to the consultancies. They are desperate to get a h1b before their time runs out, so they settle for anything they get, which means usually a level 1 salary. Some also resort to scams such as faking experiences in their resume, paying consultancies money in return for keeping them in status and so on.

How to Spot H-1B Fraud & Fake OPT Candidates: https://www.bridge.us/blog/how-to-spot-h1b-fraud-fake-opt-ca...

Hundreds of Indian students held in US for immigration violation:https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/600-indian-student...

US-India Farmington university row: 'I fled after fake college raid':https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-47154187

Fake university students knew they were committing visa 'crime':https://www.business-standard.com/article/news-ians/fake-uni...

How the American Dream Drives Indian Students Towards Shady US Universities: https://thewire.in/education/indian-students-arent-abusing-t...

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> The students who come to US for MS spend 2 years of their studies. They are not going to magically follow American culture all of a sudden. If one goes to any Hindu temple in US, you will find a huge number of these students.

Nope they do. No Indian kid ever worked in a petty job(at least ones that I know of) until they started at a US university.That teaches a lot about value of work and value of people. They get weaved inside the fabric of Murrican society.

> Another thing is H4 is not something unique to the Infosys crowd. The Infosys crowd usually gets sent back to India once their deputation is over, they don't even get a chance to apply for h4.

I am not pointing out Infosys alone. I am using Inofsys to exemplify the likes of it. So, does the crowd really go back once the tenure is over ? Not really. Every one I knew, once they landed here jumped to a different employer and became a contractor for them. Thanks to H1B. Their H4 spouses got a free ticket to live with them. I am not saying its wrong. I am saying H4 spouses are disproportionately at advantage over other immigrant groups in gaining employment.

> The reality is these US students are one of the biggest groups who flock to the consultancies. They are desperate to get a h1b before their time runs out, so they settle for anything they get, which means usually a level 1 salary. Some also resort to scams such as faking experiences in their resume, paying consultancies money in return for keeping them in status and so on.

True. Thats what I said. If we do not curb H4 based immigration, this is only going to increase.

H4 ead can only be got after a green card application. So there is really no unfair advantage