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by luckylion 2581 days ago
> Also same logic can be applied to any minority who is not in power.

No, not really. There are basically zero (published) incidents where, for example, a black guy claims somebody else insulted him when they were alone. For trans women (not f2m, as far as I know), it gets dicey as well.

And you're certainly right: you'll treat them differently, which may be unfair to them, but risk you career to treat them fairly? I doubt that a lot of people will choose fairness to others over their future.
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alphabettsy 2580 days ago
What? Even my local news has had stories about black people claiming they were called racial slurs or subjected to racist jokes at work. Google “GM plant racism” for a national story, of Tesla, or Chrysler. It’s been an issue at all in the last few years.
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luckylion 2580 days ago
Sorry, I didn't mean to say there isn't any racism, I meant it's not a he-said-she-said-situation that can end careers without any evidence of wrongdoing.

The Toledo plant sounds very different from that, with "whites only" signs and nooses (and management tolerating it). The men who are not mentoring women for the reasons stated in the article certainly don't openly insult and harass them, because that would end their careers much, much quicker than mentoring them and being falsely accused of inappropriate behavior.

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alphabettsy 2580 days ago
People care significantly less about racism which is why it doesn’t often end careers, but instead leads to sensitivity training or an apology. In many, probably most, cases it’s exactly he-said-she-said because people aren’t usually stupid/arrogant enough to leave physical proof of their racism.
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luckylion 2580 days ago
> People care significantly less about racism which is why it doesn’t often end careers

Exactly, that's all I said. The he-said-she-said isn't enough to have severe consequences, hence few people are uncomfortable to meet 1:1 with a minority.

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timavr 2581 days ago
Well that’s why people in power and leadership roles make big bucks.

They must make sure that everyone performs to the max of their ability and at the same time limit risks.

Otherwise it is work discrimination light.

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snovv_crash 2580 days ago
If one person's unverified accusation can completely ruin the life of someone else, who really has the power here?
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