[benatkin]

There's more to what GP said. It took me a while to figure it out:

> life is pointless and meaningless without children, or as a fallback without taking care of others

This implies that the type of people who genuinely don't want to have kids, and don't have some circumstance in life holding them back from having kids, don't care about others. It's not the first time I've heard it, but I disagree with it. It's the yuppie stereotype. It's wrong because there are parents who don't care very much about others, and people who choose to not have children that care a great deal about others.

It is, however, not quite as wrong as saying that people who don't have kids don't GAF, full stop.

[ddebernardy]

> This implies that the type of people who genuinely don't want to have kids (...) don't care about others

Not the slightest. It merely raises that those whose life doesn't revolve around putting a smile on someone else's face are living a rather unfulfilling life. Others here would usually, but not necessarily, be your children, family circles, etc.