Its like if spanking was your fetish but the person spanking you believes they are punishing you. It's irrelevant to the person being spanked as long as they enjoy it.
I feel like this entire forum demonstrates a chronic pessimism by rejecting the idea that a deal can be a 'win-win', that somehow both participants in the deal can benefit and the world is non-zero
Yes you're right and I was not saying otherwise. I was trying to point out that it's more the exception than the rule. The entire other 99% of the thread, and the OP topic itself is suggesting that relationships can only be win-lose
Hilarious, but an apt analogy. It might make more sense to say that anyone who doesn't work for themselves is being taken advantage of - that said, I prefer the simplicity of punching the clock to the scramble of running my own business, so I guess I'm a masochist too.