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by qxcbr 2588 days ago
They are only getting what you are giving to them.

If you decide to browse the web without uBlock Origin or if you decide to use Android, you know what you're being exposed to.

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> If you decide to browse the web without uBlock Origin or if you decide to use Android, you know what you're being exposed to.

Time to step out of the bubble of tech-savvy people and talk to everyday users. It's unrealistic to assume everybody understands technical consequences, and it's unreasonable to require everybody to do so. That's why there is regulation. This applies to all fields, including medicine, food, and IT.

This is almost certainly not true for the majority of consumers.
1. No, you don't know what you're exposed to. There are multiple ways to get data on you regardless of uBlock Origin or non-Android OSes.

2. No, it doesn't matter if you use Android (what does using Android have to do with Facebook?) or not, Facebook can and will collect info on you through other means: analytics, logins, sharing etc.

3. You have very little to no idea of how pervasive tracking is especially in the case of large social platforms that everyone integrates with.

> If you decide to browse the web without uBlock Origin or if you decide to use Android, you know what you're being exposed to.

This is just clearly and verifiably false for the vast majority of users who browse the internet.

I'd agree that everyone on HN knows what they are getting into, but we're not an accurate cross section of humanity to be fair.
I think that even within a relatively tech-savvy audience, most people don't realize both the extent of the data facebook may be gathering and the implications of facebook hoarding this information and turning it over (intentionally or accidentally) to untold third parties at some point in the future. Lots of information is harmless... until it isn't.

Consider, for example, giving your genetic material to a company that researches genealogy. Mostly harmless fun. That company is later quietly purchased- along with its databases- by a medical supplier. Meanwhile, cancer research has found that people with a particular gene sequence are at elevated risk for lung cancer. A partnership between the medical supplier and a medical insurance company means you can be screened for that risk without your knowledge, and suddenly you're screwed.

Even for those who don't see facebook as a malicious entity, there's considerable evidence that they do not exercise due diligence in storing and securing this information- see, for example, the recent case of leaking an enormous quantity of plaintext passwords via log files.

Enormous risks to individuals exist because the current regulatory environment poses no penalty to private entities for gathering personal information, sitting on it indefinitely, and transferring it to other entities until some purpose is identified. These risks may seem very small, but I believe that is mostly a fault of our collective imagination.